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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:15 pm 
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A corner stone of darker English folklore, the ghostly black dog is imprinted into the national psyche. Often associated with churches or adjacent thoroughfares, the unwitting traveller is confronted by the form of a fierce dog that is typically black with shaggy coat and blazing red eyes. Further features reported by witnesses have included sulphurous breath and a luminous, ethereal glow surrounding the animal. Sometimes portrayed as an omen with of impending death (of the witness or someone associated with them) the prospect of confronting such an apparition is not a welcome one.

Although largely associated with the south east of the country where such apparitions are widely referred to as 'Black Shuck', the black dog phenomenon is much more widespread. For example, the East Midlands has 'Padfoot', Wales 'Gwyllgi', Yorkshire 'Barghest', Somerset its 'Gurt Dog', and the Severnside area, unsurprisingly, also has a few tales of its own. Many of these stories have become legend (and perhaps were never anything else), although a number are much more recent.

Gazetteer of Gloucestershire sightings

It is worth examining each of the Gloucestershire sightings in turn, and one aim of this feature is, with time, to offer more than the typically scant details available to readers of popular books and articles on local folklore. If you are able to offer any additional information to the gazetteer (whether it be through witness reports, corrections or additional information, please email us).

Bisley - All Saints Church
Source - word of mouth from close relative of witnesses.
On a damp Saturday afternoon in late 2003, a late middle aged couple chose to escape the hassles of Christmas shopping to enjoy a visit to one of the local churches they had yet to appreciate. All Saints' Church in the small, attractive village of Bisley was their choice. After a pleasant but uneventful visit the pair emerged from the main entrance into the gradually dimming light. Their intention had been to explore the church grounds, but they were discouraged by the sight that confronted them. Emerging from underneath the low branches of a conifer tree, approximately fifty yards away and directly in front of the couple, was an oversized dog with a ragged, unkempt black coat and dark, burnt red eyes. Sensing the couple, the dog froze and looked up to reveal a wet, drool smeared mouth. It's here that the tale becomes particularly curious as the creature began to sidestep to its left and twice made the movements of barking at the pair, yet no actual noise was heard. Finding themselves in a rather unpleasant predicament, the couple turned their backs on the creature and determinedly made the short walk back to the church door. In fantastically corny style, it was as the husband turned to close the door behind him that he noticed that the dog had not decided to follow. Instead, it was nowhere in sight, something his subsequent re-emergence from the church porch confirmed. Not wishing to hang around, the couple hastily headed away from the churchyard without any further encounter with the peculiar beast.

By way of curiosity two members of SCFR paid a subsequent visit to the church (April 2005) in an attempt to learn more and compare details:

Visitors book: We were delighted to discover a visitors book inside the church but regrettably no entry has been made by the couple who allegedly had the disturbing encounter. Of course this doesn


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Theirs reports that these hounds have killed people in Blythburgh, another black dog reputedly appeared in the church and struck three people dead as they prayed and left scorch marks on the church door.


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For some reason, I find the Black Dog legends and other really ancient folklore fascinating ...I was wondering if they were a relic from pre-christian times where the natives of this country worshipped a variety of gods - could the guardian spirit theory come into this. Churches are often built on sites which predate christianity and previously served as shrines or holy places dedicated to pagan gods. I don't feel that we should write these "gods" off as a figment of ignorance and superstition - the ancients would have had a much more highly developed psychic sense than we do and what's to say that these deities are not the spirits (elemental??) that guard the land and the stuff that grows there and the creatures that populate it?? (I wonder if this is where the idea of faries originated too??)

Another thing is that the ancient tracks often walked by these dogs usually run along ley lines and other lines of energy - could this be akin to the stone tape theory - perhaps the magnetism and the prevalent climate condidtions combine at certain times to produce the black dog and his associates? If you look at assorted BD legends, the weather is often thundery and stormy the smell of "ozone/electricity" is sometimes commented on by witnesses. I could go on and on about this......and on........and on..............................and on!! :D


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It fascinates me too, especially the Black Shuck legend.

Check out this link and scroll to the bottom, it is a supposed picture of Shuck.

http://www.norfolkcoast.co.uk/myths/ml_blackshuck.htm


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What .. Shuck? The photgraphers dog that he's got to 'stay' in just the right place to get a cool pic?? :lol:

Nah ..

I have no doubt that there are wild dogs or big cats roaming around in the countryside and keeping themselves to themselves and out of 'our way' .. and sometimes we catch them on camera

.. Its also possible that some of them are ghostly in nature .. but I don't buy those pictures of 'Shuck' on that link

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Black Labrador IMO.

But if there is such a thing as Ghosts why cant there be Hell Hounds?


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No reason why not .. IF there is such things as ghosts .. but by using that argument

If ghosts exist, why not Hell Hounds ..
.. Or Werewolves
.. Or Vampires
.. Or Faeries
.. Or Gnomes
.. Or Goblins
.. Or Elves
.. Or Angels
,, Or God

.. Or Insurance companies that don't rip u off???? :mrgreen:

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I often go to see friends in that part of the country - there are a lot of wildfowlers down there near Dunwich - and wildfowling takes place at dawn and dusk - the shooters have dogs to retrieve the game - spaniels, labradors etc. It looks to be sunrise or sunset so this doggy might have been in the company of some guy shooting geese.....................or then again....maybe not!


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Who knows? :twisted:

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