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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:02 pm 
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Has anyone here seen any of the Alex Jones movies and documentaries on conspiracies and the New world order, I myself have watched nearly all of them. I'm not saying I believe everything I saw in them but they really opened my eyes to a lot of stuff that is happening in the world today, and has given me new insight in to a lot of stuff that as happened in the past also.

Give me your opinions if you have seen any of his material, if you liked Zeitgeist you will like Alex Jones.

Check out his material it will open your eyes to lots of crazy shit going on in the world, You can find most of his stuff by googling Alex Jones.


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This is just my personal oppinion so please dont take it personally.

But I dont get conspiracy theories, I mean it occurs to me that too many people spend too much time concentrating on interviews etc that backup their claims and ignore the rest.


NWO is gathering pace since some politician mentioned it, but New world order can mean a lot of things and does not automatically involve the illuminati etc.

At the end of the day life is for living, its about enjoying yourself and socialising. Not worrying about who really controls the world on which we are all but guests.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:44 pm 
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I agree with your statement about life is for living, but I also think something big is going on in the world also. I also do believe that there are elitist groups out there craving more power than ever before and will do anything to achieve this. I've watched countless hours of footage of American armed forces and military personnel from over countries doing policing operations on US soil against the American population, and such operations have a lot of American people spooked. There is no reason for foreign military personnel to be doing such operations on American soil IMO, unless they plan on bringing such things into effect as a police state if that makes any sense lol.

I value your opinion and what you say about us all being guests on this planet, but in my heart and mind I honestly do think there’s a lot of bullshit going on in the world, that they want the general population left in the dark about. It's like all this one world government bullshit you read about and one global currency. There is evidence of things like that coming into effect, the European union for one and also there is talk of a North American Union between the US, Canada & Mexico, similar things have been discussed for Asia also. Similar Thing with currencies in the end I can see the pound being abolished and we will have the Euro instated upon us, and if the North American Union comes into effect they are getting something called the Amero. I believe all the economic mess the world is in today is also forced upon us, to help them achieve such things, they control the money. Watch Zeitgeist 2 there is a very interesting part about money and lending.

I'm not saying it's something I really worry about I just believe there is lots of crap going on and lots of lying and deceit from our governments. I wouldn’t say I’m a massive believer in conspiracies, but some make me sit and wonder sometimes lol.

We all have our own beliefs and opinions which I respect.


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I like Alex Jones - I think he's funny when he goes on one of his rants ... but .. its these rants of his that seem to obscure the message and I can imagine a lot of people are put off by him when they see him going looney!

Your right Anth - the NWO can mean a lot of things and doesn't necessarilly mean the Illuminati are behind it .. I tend to think the Illumanati is just used as a catch-all word these days for " .. .the rich and powerful elite who are planning world domination .. "

But .. there is a global agenda .. there has to be .. the world couldn't function (if it indeed is classed as functioning .. ) without long term goals agreed upon by the leaders of the world. Take the UK .. we get conned every 4 years thinking that the next elected government is going to do anything different .. they put forward a 4 year plan and call it a manifesto and we decide who to vote for based on those 4 year plans.

Rubbish. To get a couple of grand worth of loans when starting a new business you need to present a 5 year plan - yet we seem to think a party who's going to run the country next only have to present a 4 year plan. No .. governments these days are just administrators who are implementing the long term goals and agendas and the political process is just there to give us - the electorate - the illusion of democracy and change.

The drive has existed amongs the powers that be for 100s (if not 1000s) of years to centralise everything. Tribes became villages .. villages became towns .. which became cities .. which became city states .. which became regions .. then countries .. then bigger countries .. and bigger .. and Empires & Commonwealths .. now .. its continents .. and tomorrow the world.

A single world bank, a single world government, a single world army, a micro-chipped population etc ect .. are all planned to benefit the rich and powerful and to leave all us plebs in servitude to them.

There doesn't need to be any mystical Illumanati orchastrating things behind the scenes .. the people responsible are doing it and doing it in our faces and don't give a damn if a few of us work it out ..

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Incidentally - to follow on from something that Blackster mentioned there .. I saw this news story yesterday .. The Government are putting plans in place to put the troops on the streets this year to deal with forcasted civil unrest .. That should NEVER happen in a free democracy like what we're supposed to be living in no matter the reasoning ..

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/869 ... bank-riots

Of course - this has been expected and talked about for years by the likes of Alex Jones and David Icke .. just last year Icke was talking about how Traffic Wardens have been given new powers of arrest to ease the pressure on the police .. they've known this was coming for years ..

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Yes I too do not think armed forces should be given powers to police the streets, it is happening big time over in the USA. I was blind to such things but after a few hours of footage its opened my eyes a bit more to the world and crap going on around us, and we all know whatever is going to happen in the USA will happen here as we always kiss arse and follow suit.


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I have the illuminati symbol on my left leg, things are always kept from us via goverments. coverups etc. i believe in it. as someone once said
"i love my country but fear my goverment"


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one day the whole situation will change forever :roll: :twisted:


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i hope i am there to see it all, v for vendetta sums up where things are going. awsome movie


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i never seen that film ,,is it good? :mrgreen:


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its really good. id recommend a watch. its dark and the ending is really good some of the quotes v comes out with are awsome the bit about ideas being bullet proof. and its got dark humor to it as well. plus you can't beat a guy in black with a mask battering baddies about. the perfect anti hero. plus it's propper british as well. it was a comic before hand i think


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things are always kept from us via US, oursleves,people just play onthat fact and watch us create all this shit ourselves...........
thats the shit.............

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Most of the issues in the world - as Claire says - are our fault. Some are deliberately hidden and we can't help those - but most are right in front of us but we chose to ignore them.

And .. yes .. a lot of these problems are a product of our warped perception although thats not entirely our fault as we're bombarded everyday to only look at things at 1 level.

The powers in a society throughout history - starting with the village chieften of ye olde times right through to the Kings / Queens / Presidents and Prime-ministers of today - have always sought to control the population .. Anyone who thinks its any different today just because the controllers wear just suits instead of suits of armour is deluding themselves.

The population is, by and large, extremely naive, gulible and ignorant of the world in which we live. If we managed to lift our fat arses from in front of the TV with its soap operas and Celebrity this-and-that, then maybe we'd see the world differently.

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agree but disagree j but know u'll get me.....but just gotta say I didnt say'fault'.....that meansjackshit to me, more pointless bullshit served up tothemthat want it, I dontdont see a point forit,'fault' when applied to stuff especiallythis stuff!
if we get our speak 4 u self fatarses away fromthetv media shite we wont see the owlrld any differently,we'll see it exactly howwe wantto see it, which will probablybe aswe have always seen it.
Get what your saying, and the net isthe biggest place forthis now, that getting away from it is a top thing....however people will always see what they wantto see.....which will be a 'hangover' from this system already set in place........
when people change HOW they think....not WHAT they think(otr watch or do or owt etc) then thats when things will change......for them anyway!

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Well it is our "fault" in a lot of ways (sorry for putting words in your mouth!) ..Even when things are dangling right in front of us we chose to look the other way because it might not be comfortable to face it head on.

And I mean "get of our arses from infront of the TV" in a more figurative sense .. Instead of just watching blindly the shite they put on TVs .. pull our head out of our arses and see it for what it is ... a way to keep us occupied .. we'd rather wonder and gossip aimlessly about what a fictional character in a soap is up to rather than trying to sort the big shit out..

And to stop looking at things in the way we're programmed to see it.

Instead of wondering why the banks in this country need billions to bail them out (and trillions world wide) and just accepting the "official line" - go and educate ourselves and see the scam being carried out collectively by the PTB and the banking industry on us.

Instead of saying "oooh .. thats a bit off" when we get promised a referundum on Europe and then have it snatched away when they think they'll lose - again, go educate ourselves and see whats really happening there ..

When Johnny Arab straps on a suicide belt and blows some poor saps up .. don't just wave our fists at the supposed "bad folk" .. educate ourselves instead about our own intelligence services.

When we illegally invade countries like Iraq on the back of blatent lies - don't just tut when the government announces a private inquiry so they can hide their mess ..

When super Al Gore tells us the poor Polar Bears are dying and gets the governments of the world to start implementing Carbon Taxes on us (payed to the worlds bankers) - go educate ourselves and you'll soon find out the Al Gore is the guy who runs the company who gets people to pay Carbon Credits to it out of "guilt" because we're responsible.

Scam Scam Scam Scam -- I could go on all night!

We have to stop just soaking up the official line and start questioning it. Spotting the bull shit. Standing up against it.

But, people won't .. as you say .. they'll see what they want to see and make excuses to continue living their bullshit comfortable lives.

Its all a scam and is slowly wrapping us up in chains.

And when its complete - we'll deserve it.

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'fault' implies 'blame' and all that kinda shite, which I dont do, thats why I wanted to get away from that kinda thinking andthose words etc.
Be cause thatspartof all thatway of thinking which leads to thisshit, part of thesamecycle

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one of the main reasons i dont watch tv, as its always full of crap :roll:


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Jay wrote:
Well it is our "fault" in a lot of ways (sorry for putting words in your mouth!) ..Even when things are dangling right in front of us we chose to look the other way because it might not be comfortable to face it head on.

And I mean "get of our arses from infront of the TV" in a more figurative sense .. Instead of just watching blindly the shite they put on TVs .. pull our head out of our arses and see it for what it is ... a way to keep us occupied .. we'd rather wonder and gossip aimlessly about what a fictional character in a soap is up to rather than trying to sort the big shit out..

And to stop looking at things in the way we're programmed to see it.
Instead of wondering why the banks in this country need billions to bail them out (and trillions world wide) and just accepting the "official line" - go and educate ourselves and see the scam being carried out collectively by the PTB and the banking industry on us.

Instead of saying "oooh .. thats a bit off" when we get promised a referundum on Europe and then have it snatched away when they think they'll lose - again, go educate ourselves and see whats really happening there ..

When Johnny Arab straps on a suicide belt and blows some poor saps up .. don't just wave our fists at the supposed "bad folk" .. educate ourselves instead about our own intelligence services.

When we illegally invade countries like Iraq on the back of blatent lies - don't just tut when the government announces a private inquiry so they can hide their mess ..

When super Al Gore tells us the poor Polar Bears are dying and gets the governments of the world to start implementing Carbon Taxes on us (payed to the worlds bankers) - go educate ourselves and you'll soon find out the Al Gore is the guy who runs the company who gets people to pay Carbon Credits to it out of "guilt" because we're responsible.

Scam Scam Scam Scam -- I could go on all night!

We have to stop just soaking up the official line and start questioning it. Spotting the bull shit. Standing up against it.

But, people won't .. as you say .. they'll see what they want to see and make excuses to continue living their bullshit comfortable lives.

Its all a scam and is slowly wrapping us up in chains.

And when its complete - we'll deserve it.




Well said Jay :mrgreen:


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