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are these orbs
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:09 pm 
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are these orbs

we caught this on night vision camera at easby abbey in the church out side.
you decide if its good enough for the web site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEC4MZoCIk

please not there was no tourch only night vision cameras used at this time

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Orbs have been well and truly debunked Danny. There are either dust or camera flares. The big camera companies have spent millions investigating this, so their findings are good enough for me.


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thats what you think thats ok...

there was no way that it can/could be a camera flair as i was sat and at the time sue was stood and filming out side and so there was no reflection being made from the camera and in side the church bit there was nothing for it to reflect off in there to cause a camera flair i recorded it and i think i would of noticed iv caught s**t loads of orbs/dust even camera flairs and i can now tell the diffrence after useing and experimenting for nearly 2 year i can tell the diffrence.

i only wish you were in my shoes when i was recording it or you would be able to see the angles we were stood/sat and cameras pointing. plus iv noticed with sues camera when useing nightvision at a location her night vision beam is long and st8 unlike mine, mine expands the light around the room. so there is another reason for it not being a flair.....

beleve me do ya think i would of went to so much trouble to put a picture of a flair/dust up on her if i didnt think it was good enough...

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thats what you think thats ok...

there was no way that it can/could be a camera flair as i was sat and at the time sue was stood and filming out side and so there was no reflection being made from the camera and in side the church bit there was nothing for it to reflect off in there to cause a camera flair i recorded it and i think i would of noticed iv caught s**t loads of orbs/dust even camera flairs and i can now tell the diffrence after useing and experimenting for nearly 2 year i can tell the diffrence.

i only wish you were in my shoes when i was recording it or you would be able to see the angles we were stood/sat and cameras pointing. plus iv noticed with sues camera when useing nightvision at a location her night vision beam is long and st8 unlike mine, mine expands the light around the room. so there is another reason for it not being a flair.....

beleve me do ya think i would of went to so much trouble to put a picture of a flair/dust up on her if i didnt think it was good enough...


Well I would prefer to take Kodaks word for it anyday. Anyway I thought you were babysitting.


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i was i dumped me sister on me mam at work... she she rang saying she was finsihing this was at 8:30pm then headed st8 to easby id of rang ya but had no number sue told ya the situation

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yes sue did lol -- erm I do beleive orbs exsist.............although I know that not every "orb" is an orb!! -- on that vid of dannys well im sure the 2nd one is, not sure on the first as of yet :wink:


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arr dont u start

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:49 am 
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are these orbs

we caught this on night vision camera at easby abbey in the church out side.
you decide if its good enough for the web site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEC4MZoCIk

please not there was no tourch only night vision cameras used at this time
...Its impossible to give yes/no answer.If you give either answer youre disregarding the other,and that could be the right one.


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lol .. I think that makes sense .. just .. Still say its just a light flare .. sorry danny .. :cry:

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probs i dunno

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look like reflection. Good Pic thou


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can anyone actually show me a hard copy of a report where orbs have actually been debunked?


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Could be just a myth Kris .. ya know .. a dodgy Downing Street Dossier .. :wink:

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Could be just a myth Kris .. ya know .. a dodgy Downing Street Dossier .. :wink:


lol yeah , people keep mentioning orbs have been debunked but i've not seen a hardcopy report yet...maybe downing street is at its best again :lol:

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Interesting footage.

My initial thoughts:

The first orb (the larger of the two) looks like a reflection of moisture, you know as if there was moisture on the lense. I'm not syaing thats what it was, just what it looked like to me.

The second one appears to be an "orb". However i am massively sceptic about the spherical orbs, and feel other light anomolies deserve more investigation than orbs.

In most cases I suspect orbs are little more than airbourn particles or dust. Some that seem to move in varying directions could be of a more paranormal origin, but this would only be revealed in video footage and not still picture footage.

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its really difficult to elimate all natural occurences when filming outside.. It's a shame because if you do get a "genuine" orb, then you can't actually prove it is because of all the mitigating circumstances around..

insects... dust.. moisture in the air (even if it feels dry)... etc etc..

It makes our job as investigators harder, but hey ho, never one to turn her back on a challenge..

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I had a similar thing at the keep. The infrared light on the camera causes dust and fluff in the air to look like a ball of light. And yes, even though there is many particles of dust in the air, sometimes only one or two refract the light. Hence your two 'orbs'.

While looking through my camera at the Keep, a single strand of dust, just a couple of mm long drifted in-front of the lens and I could clearly see it at the centre of the 'orb', since then I have been more sceptical of orbs whereas before I was on the fence about them.

There is also the theory that 'spirit orbs' show up only under fluorescence hence why you only get them when the flash goes off. In this case it is just infrared light so that rules out that theory on this occasion.

But saying that, I don't recall any definitive proof that totally negates orbs but the evidence is hugely on the side of contamination of the shot rather than paranormal.

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it's one of those things that is personal belief really isn't it... something that goes with a lot of our research LOL

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not sure about the orbs. could i hear two breaths towards the end of the video?? :?

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I'm not all that 'up' on orbs, but never really believed them until I got a couple of weird things. Could be dust but might not. I'd say, whatever they are, they're interesting :wink:

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I've got a couple of sites that debunks them scientifically if anyone's interested.


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here we go "debunked scientifically" :wink:

i hate that lol :wink:

how can scientists say there is really no such thing as orbs, they are always looking in the box they are not ever looking out of the box. how can they say for definite that there is no such thing? :lol:

i am sure they used to say that they couldn't split the atom - and o they did eventually :wink:

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The sites don't say there's no such thing, that's an impossibility.

What they do say is that orbs caught on digital cameras are naturalistic and present evidence to back up the statements. There isn't one shred of evidence to the contrary.

The one thing that science does do is look outside the box. That's how it became possible to split the atom. But sometimes, no matter how hard you look, there's nothing outside the box and you have to rely on what's inside it for your answer.


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