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 Post subject: Why do some people just not experience things ... ?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:10 pm 
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I'll bung it in the sceptics section as its probably aimed at those with a more sceptical outlook although it could be classed as a more general question ..

I've often asked myself the question : why does one person experience something paranormal and others don't?

I've often heard people say : "I've been to XYZ investigations and never experienced anything ... " ..

Do they actually mean that literally - they've never experienced anything which could remotely be classed as paranormal .. or are they meaning things have happened yet they've always found a rationale reason for it?

I've experienced many things that no explanation could be found for from bits of wood being thrown at me .. jumping wardrobes .. inexplainable bangs .. voices .. laughing .. being pushed when walking .. oppressive atmospheres .. growling .. extreme temperature drops .. a real bona-fide "ghost" .. etc etc

Now this isn't saying theres isn't an explanation - but not something that with a click of the fingers can explain it all away .. Yes, I've experienced many that do fit in that category - something happens and then the realisation that its " .. just the wind .. " ... but there are many many things that still can't be.

So why do some experience the first lot I mentioned and not others?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:20 pm 
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I think that if you go on a lot investigations you will almost certainly experience things that you won't have an explanation for. I'm not saying that they won't have an explanation, just that it is not known at the moment. Some people will attribute their experience to the paranormal if it is in this grey area, and some people will not. I think that the amount that people claim to experience is down to their own perceptions in many cases.

There is a line of thought that goes along the lines that a closed mind will somehow block your chances of seeing/experiencing the paranormal, but this is not something that I personally agree with. I think if you are in the right place at the right time under the right conditions, you have as much chance of seeing a ghost as the next man.

Here's hoping!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:56 pm 
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Why is it then that you can be in the most haunted building in all the land and experience nothing?

It doesnt add up. Even if someone is sceptical, a full blown apparition, as claimed by some, would do wonders to their beliefs.
I cant see the soul of a long dead person giving a toss if someone believes in paranormal or not.

I spent a rathe long investigation in the cooperage recently and not a single thing occured to the group I was in. Nothing, not a single attempt at anything paranormal. Yet the other team got loads.

We had no taps, no bangs, no cold spots no light anomolies no feelings of danger or apprehension. It was like walking round your own home all night.
We found one odd smell, but I decided it was jagermeister which was on sale in the bar.

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I often find that I am in a group that gets very little while other groups seems to get loads.

There are exceptions though.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:19 pm 
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doktor_phibes wrote:
I often find that I am in a group that gets very little while other groups seems to get loads.

There are exceptions though.


I suppose it depends on who make sup the other group.

For example if the other group are all out and out believers then any little noise is going to be "activity". Where as with you and I, we'll just shrug it off as the building settling.

Dowsing rods and pendulums, whilst I will use them I dont have any real belief in them. To me its all hocus pocus bumff.
What I want to is to capture evidence via voice recorder and or video or stills footage. This evidence may or may nt be usefull to anyone else, but it will back up what I saw or heard at the time.

So far the evidence i have gathered sums up my experiences so far. There is nothing paranormal on any of it.

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I'm with you on the rods and pendulums Anth. I also want my personal evidence on film or recorder just to back up anything I witness with my own eyes.

I thought you had seen a dark shape moving down a corridor towards you on one invest Anth. What do you put the most likely explanation down to?

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Its hard to say.

What I clearly remember happening did not appear on the video footage.
Perhaps I sensed a shadow moving towards us?
Maybe it was just the light and my eyes playing tricks on me?

We should be going back there soon, so I'll have to have a go at antagonising whatever is there.

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I'll be very interested to find out how you get on.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:18 pm 
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some people had experiances when they were younger , which stays with them for life,so there road continues down the same path,seeking the ultimate goal, others have had no experiance,,but are interested!which is both good, but the ones with the images in there mind , like anth says will probs listen more think more hear more,looking for that lost voice that they heard long ago :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:58 pm 
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anth i was in that team what seemed to get stuff... We got a lot of smells and that to me is most interesting. But isnt it why we do this to try and prove either way if aplace is could be haunted. If i go to aplace and sit there for hrs doing experiements etc and nowt happens we dont capture anything then thats all fine and dandy as this is why we do it...

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it is impossible for someone to experience 'nothing' fuckin think bout it hehehehehehehe!!!

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ive been on investigations and got nowt but thats alright its why i do it

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:17 pm 
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its impossible to get nowt!!!!!!

You can go and get nothing you percieve as paranormal which is as relevant as getting something percieved as paranormal its a bloody investigation not a fuckin fright night hehehehehe!
All stuff adds to the picture and says nothing other than what it is...with other stuff can maybe lead to things and build patterns etc, one thing which always fucking gets me is how the fuck people can say something is paranormal when they have no understanding of 'normal', or way or measuring it either for themselves or their environment etc

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pollen101 wrote:
something is paranormal when they have no understanding of 'normal', or way or measuring it either for themselves or their environment etc


i liked that pollen.. :wink: :D


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triplow wrote:
pollen101 wrote:
something is paranormal when they have no understanding of 'normal', or way or measuring it either for themselves or their environment etc


i liked that pollen.. :wink: :D


Hey I must be paranormal then, cos I have no concept of normality, and far from normal myself. :mrgreen:


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nobody is ??? normal,, word means nothing :roll:


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got me Pam!

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