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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:45 pm 
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Here's a link to a story that has just been picked up by the Daily Mail. What do you think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:49 pm 
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I blame the smoke alarm........

Interesting stuff tho,something that can fling people about is definately worth a look at!

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Well a faulty smoke alarm can easily be tested. I think that it's quite interesting case. I also find it interesting that as soon as something like this is reported everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that they have only made it up because they want to get moved to another house. This may be very well be the case but I do feel sorry for them if they are telling the truth.

It will be interesting to see if the church manages to put an end to the phenomena.

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damn right!

Interesting that most 'ghost' stuff gets 'scorned'....

I know from talking to people who have experienced what they described as prolonged (over a period of time), terrifying poltergeist phenomenon the isolation they feel from this kind of attitude,especially the 'host' is something which makes the whole experience more horrible for them, as people seem to assume they are making it up because they are mentally unstable/attention seeking etc. Its not easy to get the council to move you based on this either from what I gather too............

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wow thats some pretty issues, if they are true. i wonder if they've had any other experiences of a paranormal nature, or something has triggered the entity in the home.


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As it's on your patch so to speak have any of you followed this up?


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yip!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:47 am 
!!! If that's in Thornton Street (near st paul's church) then it was the one myself and my family had to leave for the same reasons.

ANyone know where it was exactly? we lived at number 11 (i think - i was very young at the time but i know it was at the end of alderson st).


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What happened that made you leave Scubbins?

(Didnt know you were a monkey hanger...........I'm saying nowt hehehehehehe!!!)

I dont know the exact address this happened at,'investigations' didnt reveal that.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:50 am 
From what I found on the hartlepool mail website it said they lived on york road but their nearest church was st pauls - which seems odd considering the only residential places on that roa are much further down. So perhaps I was just jumping to conclusions. It still conjured up memories though.
We left because of the fact there were voices heard in the attic,the TV walked out into the middle of the room, windows between rooms being rapped on despite us all being in the same room, and myself held against a wall, and a workman thrown across the kitchen into a glass door (he wasn't seriously hurt though!)

It all sounds rather unreal - and I guess in part of my mind I tell myself I was so young that I may have just been imagining it - it's just when you hear other people's accounts corresponding with your own that it all comes back.


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Maybe it was the ghost of the hanged monkey!! :shock: lol


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Does indeed make you wonder as to the cause, whether it be purely circumstantial that they want a move or not? Having been the victim of some poltergeist activity in the past I can certainly say it exists however some cases can be blown up and some are rife for misinterpretation; just look at the london case several years ago.

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I too have experienced what I class as Poltergeist activity when I was a teen so I know it happens too. Is the case you are referring to the Enfield case from the 70's?

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Yeah that was quite well documented and is still talked about now.. obviously :D

Abaddon? would that be the despoiler?


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yeah the enfield case, started off as being really interesting however think it became apparent that it wasnt too paranormal, and no not the despoiler, the angel of the abyss

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Really, that's my favourite ever case! I still think the sheer volume of 'evidence' holds up really well today. Sure the girls were caught out playing about on occasion, but that doesn't detract from the main body of 'Evidence' in my opinion.

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Was impressive but tarnished due to the playing around, wonder how well the story would stand up against modern methods eg video cam, motion detector etc?

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I agree that it was 'tarnished' and it gives the naysayers an easy way to attack the case while avoiding any of the better evidence.

I've often wondered what difference it would have made if the case had happened in this day and age. We'll just have to cross our fingers that something like this does happen again in the near future. (not that I want a family put through hell, but you know what I mean).

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So do we know anyone who has actually been to the hartlepool house? or knows anyone near it?

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Well as far as I know Claire/Pollen chased it up but I don't think we got anywhere, she should be back on the forum tomorrow so she should be able to shed some light on the story.

The story is covered in the new issue of Fortean Times.

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I have given our details to a person in contact with them to pass on to them if they are interested in us investigating this for them, as far as I'm aware they have not been in touch, so can only assume they are not interested.

I wont 'chase' this up anymore than this, they know where we are if they want us - simple!

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doktor_phibes wrote:
I agree that it was 'tarnished' and it gives the naysayers an easy way to attack the case while avoiding any of the better evidence.

I've often wondered what difference it would have made if the case had happened in this day and age. We'll just have to cross our fingers that something like this does happen again in the near future. (not that I want a family put through hell, but you know what I mean).
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Was impressive but tarnished due to the playing around, wonder how well the story would stand up against modern methods eg video cam, motion detector etc?


Strangely enough I watched a film last night called "Urban Ghost Story", it reminded me of the Enfield case - and most probably inspired by these type of cases. Although only a movie, it showed the portrayal of a journalist who was interfering with evidence - and ultimately twisting the facts to create a scenario fit for the news paper - anyway to the point it got me thinking about how much influence IE the media would have had on a case such as the Enfield case - and like you say Dok - on a case that may pop up in the future?

What are your views on this guys?


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Watched the same film. It was OK.

As for the media influencing things. You bet. Even the most fair and honest reporter or editor is not beyond slanting their coverage to favour particular views or desired perceptions. Some may do so unintentionally but by far the majority take huge pride in their ability to give a story legs and lead it. There are also people about who know how to use and exploit the media. Even if they don't admit it that game is often played so it works to all their advantages.


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yups tbh, I think that cases that dont go to press an want to stay anonymous are more credible.........the ones with nohing to gain

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