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 Post subject: DEREK ACORAH
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:12 pm 
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My friend made an interesting point about Acorah. If his spirit guide Sam is from Ethiopia, then how can he understand him if he cannot speak zie English ? :roll:

Most Ethiopians cannot speak our lingo now, nevermind ones that lived centuries ago !

Is Derk fluent in Ethiopian ?

One way to catch him out, would be to ask him to ask Sam to speak in Ethiopian to him, so that he can immediately translate it back !

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I think this has been brought up before and DA has answered the point by saying something stupid like the spirits always speak to him in English. Or something like that.

I remember one MH episode in which he was supposed to have been spoken to by the spirit of Mary d'Anjou. But apparently Mary had forgotten how to pronounce her name correctly and had spoken her name to DA just as a stupid, Liverpudlian, con artist medium would have done and DA repeated it as Mary donjew.


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I think this has been brought up before and DA has answered the point by saying something stupid like the spirits always speak to him in English. Or something like that.

I remember one MH episode in which he was supposed to have been spoken to by the spirit of Mary d'Anjou. But apparently Mary had forgotten how to pronounce her name correctly and had spoken her name to DA just as a stupid, Liverpudlian, con artist medium would have done and DA repeated it as Mary donjew.



Dont beat around the bush there hun, say what you mean :D :D :D

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aww stop picking on him guys :wink:

Dereks guide Sam's story goes way back to one of his past lifes over 2,000 yrs ago when he also used to live in Ethiopia.Which is where n when he met "sam" .............

about the how can he understand him question: well many of us now have guides from different cultures / countries and they are obv understood (english speaking i guess lol) or many mediums would have problems passing on messages otherwise spirit have translators lol :wink:

But again if he was a fake no way would he have became as popular as he is today


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its just more of a case of people wanting to believe any old shite and DA is good at feeding it. Nothing else. Been caught out too many times and makes poor excuses to get out of them.

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I used to believe DA was a brilliant medium.

Then i came across Derren Brown and read his book. And the DA bubble burst!

I agree with Lee on this one, sorry Sue. I know there are many DA fans out there and I really wouldnt want to upset any of them with my opinions of DA but I really feel with all the evidence there is on tape to say otherwise, he isnt what he makes himself out to be.
There is so much stuff on the net that shows on vid DA doing what DA does best, faking it.

For example you only have to think about Creed Kafer, a total set up by Kieran, ( i think it was kieran anyway) If DA was the real deal why didnt he pick up on that. Why didnt sam tell him it was a trick a play on words and therefore protect DA's reputation.
There are so many more instances to many to quote here.
There have been hundreds of instances where he gets dates, names, places totally wrong. When you have a friend who is into history in a big way and points these things out you do start to see DA in his true light!

Also if you actually watch DA in action on most haunted you can actually see the moments when he either gets told to get "possessed", there are pauses just before and then suddenly hes possessed. This is more obvious on the lives!
And then of course theres the "off camera moments" again to many to quote here.

He has the gift of the gab alright and unfortunatly hes picked on a group of people who are very vunerable.
I have respect for all those who do think hes genuine because at the end of the day we all have our own beliefs and there will always be that doubt. Nothing has been proved in the psychic world to catagorically say there is nothing going on. But there is more scientific and logical proof that there isnt.



Again its the age old agrument of believer vs sceptic.

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He is a fake, one of the most blatant fakes around and the only reason he's as popular as he is is that he has so many gullible people who follow him around. It's easy to take people in and the more converts you have the more you'll get.


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Im not a big fan of Derek, i used to be, but the more i have watched him the more weary i have become.

As for the communication with Sam though.....i used to get a lot of messages from my German Grandad. German was my first language but i have forgot most of it. The last time i went over to visit family i could bearly understand what they were saying. Anyway, when my grandad would communicate he used symbols, images, signs etc rather than speak.

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well where to begin i dont doubt derek acorah as a medium per say but where i think he has gone wrong is doing it for television everyone wants to see a ghost or see someone get possessed, as we all know from our investigations this just isnt always the case you could sit somewhere all night just to end up being possessed by flu lol i think derek became a victim of showmanship and as the audience figures got higher so did the expectation and it's come to the point now where derek has lost all credibility thats my take anyway.
i'm not a derek basher nor do i think he's right i just think everyone deserves a fair crack of the whip.

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He needs cracking with a whip more than anything! :wink:

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Dell Im gunna knack u for making this thread :wink: lol

He cannot fake thousands of readings / messages -- he is a great medium :lol:


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sue wrote:
Dell Im gunna knack u for making this thread :wink: lol


:mrgreen: :wink:


There are many genuine, good mediums out there, but that man has made them a laughing stock in the public eye due to his foolish actions on Most Haunted.

Robert Kilroy - Silk had him in his pocket years ago on his TV show, before M.H. began, & I realised even then that he is nothing more than a plonker.

Am I also correct in stating that the Most Haunted crew caught him out on one of the investigations, by purposely mentioning a made up name on the set before the action started, one which Acorah claimed to make contact with during the investigation ? :wink:

I believe in mediums and psychics, Sue, but certainly not Derk Acorah.

David Wells puts him to shame.

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Anyone can put him to shame. Even my electric meter gives better readings.


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Creed Kafer!!

Says it all to me!

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There are loads of fakes out there as i call them Wanna be's! And if mediums are real and do a real thing then these Fakes and wananbes are giving all mediums a bad name and making it hard for them to do their job without us questioning them..

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I agree andrea theres always the minority that ruin it for the majority.

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Soooooooooo How do you spot a fake medium enlighten the uneducated masses amongst us.

As far as i am aware people have different levels of understanding and awareness, just because they can't tell you that uncle tom used to liked covering himself in squirty cream,does that make them a fake , NO it proves that their understanding and awareness abilities and the way they interprit the messages they recieve isn't as developed as it could be or has reached it's full potential within the understanding that this individual has,it does not mean that they are a fake. Happens all the time iv'e seen many mediums and sceptics judge people rather wrongly in respect of their clairvoyant / mediumistic abilities because both sides of the coin lack the compassion that would be better off being channeled into working with and helping those who are developing and encouraging both sides to reach a better understanding of the forces involved,but as most of us know thats never going to happen because people are egotistic and self obsessed with the righteousness of their point of view. :wink:

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After seeing Derek on the weakest link I now love him xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

all thats for you Derek!!!!!!
Keep doing it Accorah style !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Most people - sceptics or believers - don't understand how mediumship works so its impossible to say who is real and who is fake.

Just because Deggsy prances about putting on funny voices, hamming it up and playing to the camera doesn't automatically equate to him being a fake.

Every single person in existence feels the weight of pressure and responsibility - genuine or not - even Deggsy will feel that and he will be expected to give a reading to everyone he ever meets because of his reputation that he's built over the years.

Are people honestly saying they've never had a bad day at work where everything goes wrong? Are we all so perfect as to never make a mistake or two? You've never had a headache which just makes you feel as tho you can't be bothered yet you have to just get on with things and end up doing a half-assed job? My - what a wonderful little work-force we have here.

Deggsy - and Mediums in general - are exactly the same in that regards as everyone else.

Ok - that's not me saying is genuine .. I don't know ... he might be, he might not be .. but just because there is a weed in the garden we don't ignore all the flowers that are there too (shit - got to stop all this Confucius style made up lines!!!)

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genuine or not I have no idea,I'd have to meet him to know obviously.......

Theres just something about Derek that I warm too!!!!

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Well claire, I'm finished with you. A friend of Ducks Arse is no friend of mine :evil:

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dont make me choose.....sob.....

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If Derek Acorah is as gifted as he claims to be, then I am the Queen of Denmark ! :roll:

That's my humble opinion.

David Wells, does seem to have the psychic gift, without having to pretend that he has been taken over by the spirit of a North Sea trout, that passed over in the 18th century.

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