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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:44 pm 
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I've just finished reading this book about the famous 'most haunted house in the world,' and I gather pollen is reading it as we speak. The whole Borley episode has caused much controversy since the death of Harry Price with many people including members of the SPR dismissing the case as a fraud. This book takes a balanced view of the whole affair and presents some new evidence/idea never printed before. I came away from the book believing that something did indeed happen at Borley, but like most famous cases these tend to be exaggerated over time.

I'm now about to embark on reading the Biography of Harry Price. I'll let you know how I get on.

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they both sound awesome, when i was a kid i was obsessed with this case, i wanted to go there which would have been fun as it was demolished in 1944, having said that it would still have been nice to see the site.


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We managed to man-handle a brick from Borley, Trips, when we met up with Felix at Preston Hall last week .. Dok acted like he was handling a perfectly formed bosom .. :shock:

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i bet that was an honor :D (@)(@)
thats the one place i will never get to go but would have loved to have gone :(


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Jay wrote:
We managed to man-handle a brick from Borley, Trips, when we met up with Felix at Preston Hall last week .. Dok acted like he was handling a perfectly formed bosom .. :shock:


I've got pics to prove it too, phwoar!

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bet you have mark :mrgreen:


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still reading this but getting a bit bored as it repeats itself often to the point where it could say it all in 1 far smaller book however some good stuff in there certainly seems just going on this alone that there was something there that links and overlaps all the tennants but again fuck knows the 'truth' as it was so long ago.........maybe all nothing or maybe something this books indicates that there was something there tho which may have got blown up in certain areas but def points out patterns and links...however they in themselves are interesting........
I might 'know' hehehe more when I've finished it!

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That's a good point actually Claire, it does jump about a bit. Wait until you get the the bit on the seance results, very hard going. I probably found it a better book as I've already read another 'easier going' book on Borley and I like the news books different take on events.

I must say that it probably isn't the best 'beginners guide to Borley' but it is very interesting none the less.

I should lend you 'This House is Haunted' Claire. My most favourite book in the world. You will not be bored by it I guarantee.

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I've read other things on Borley (not Prices tho I dont think!)so am familiar with most of the stuff, I just find it very repetative and it jumps about a lot, its worse than me for saying 'I'll come back to this later' hehehe!!!
I had already decided I would find the seance stuff hard going (probably cos this type of thing makes me want to punch people een hen its me transcribing this for a report hehehe!).

What do you think is different about this book?The way stuffs presented or new 'conclusions' or things drawn from it etc?

And yep I would love to read your fave book Mark !

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I've been wanting a decent Borley Rectory book for a while - I was interested in this or would you suggest something else?


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Didnt Price start to lose the plot a little bit after Borley? Just waiting the arrival of the book about the south shields poltergeist, is it any good does anyone know?

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Triplow - I'd suggest reading this,its repetative but its got quite a bit of info in.

abaddon - Marks the man to ask about Price,and the South Shield Poltergeist!
I've not read the book but I've heard a few people say its interesting.

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This is the latest Borley books and it's been getting some great reviews 5/5 in the new Fortean TImes. One for my shopping list I think.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Borley-Rectory- ... 515&sr=8-1

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some very interesting 'reader reviews'.........

Whats your take on the 'Price' debate?

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I tend to think the 'truth' lies somewhere between the two extreme's. I don't think Price was an all out fraud and I think his heart was in the right place, but I do agree he was very good at self publicity and that certain evidence doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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Do you think this could be said about many investigators of this subject?

Do you think this was because of the reasons suggested in 1 of the reviews of that book (easier than me typing it all hehe!)?

i know from collecting and compiling reports, and various peoples slightly different interpretations of the same event (as well as different ways of recording this which can be a pain) that most 'reports' would look 'shifty' under scrutiny..........

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I've not read the reviews on Amazon yet. I will when I get a mo and get back to you.

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''A timely companion to the Borley Rectory investigation this may be (it is 60 years since the death of its proponent Harry Price) but it misses the wood for the trees. Like so many writers, Underwood et al, miss the real story. Price was socially isolated by various societies (including the SPR) at the time of the Borley investigation. He needed money as well as academic and public recognition and hoped Borley would be the key. Repressed at home, and cold-shouldered in the world of psychic research he found solace in the drawing out of this mad drama. Unfortunately for this book, Andrew Clarke's The Bones of Borley is still the best Borley resource because it actually tests Harry Price's investigation, points out discrepancies, solves mysteries and challenges readers to accept that Borley Rectory was the backdrop to a well-told ghost story. They should re-read Harry Price's own books to tell them this. I'm rather excited to learn that Richard Morris, the author of the first independent biography of Harry Price, is writing an unauthorised biography of Peter Underwood. I look forward to this immensely. ''

This was the review I was on about,well tis was the review that raises the points anyway!

Have you read the Peter Underwood book he's on about Mark?

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I haven't read the book but I am very interested in it. It is very easy to knock Price but his detractors are just as guilty in making their version events more plausible, just as much as Prices' backers.

I've read books both for and against Price and I do feel that all the accounts try to prove their own agendas. It's just unfortunate that the accounts that say he was a total fraud will always seem to carry more weight than those that say his stories were true. I really do think the truth lies somewhere between the two.

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shame he doesnt pop back and clear this up once and for all!

Harry.......if your listening..............

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A fraud is one thing but the idea of maintaining a fraud for a long time seems inplausible. THere has to be something in all the stories.


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I'd go along with this too..........whatever it is that 'in it'!

Its why The Fleece at York gets my attention,so many stories,myths,rumours and opinions surrounding it........

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Exactly. I love the whole drama of the story too. Makes for fascinating reading.

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I htink its totally possible to maintain fraud,if this is also the case too!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:52 pm 
For mr Price to spend so much of his life 'researching' borley suggests one, or both of two things - that perhaps there was a grain of truth in his reports (i can't say one way or the other what was true or not - i know what i'd like to believe though and that colours my judgement); and/or (perhaps even more interestingly) his need and desire to uphold the story. It's beautifully human to need to construct an artifical truth for whatever reason. To think that people don't have character flaws and insecurities is to miss something really special - although it would be f*****g amazing to talk with him openly.

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