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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:18 am 
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When people need help in regards paranormal stuff who do they go to?

I know years ago I was having experiences and things going on which were scaring the hell outta me and it was only through 'chance' that I ended up with a medium at my house putting things straight for me etc......I honestly dont know what I would have done or where I would have gone for help otherwise.I know my familly and boyfriend were planning some kind of psychiatric intervention if things had gone on (which would have caused no end of grief as I dont do psychiatric) but I dont think I would have approached a medium cos then I wouldnt have known where to get one from (14-15 years ago).I wouldnt have gone near either the spiritualist churches or any other churches cos I dont do them either........

I know from experience that at times when odd stuffs going on and on one believes you (even though they witmess and experience stuff etc but it doesnt fit with thier world interpretation so they dismiss it etc ) how isolating this can be, although I suppose its different now with there being so many paranormal groups and mediums being so popular etc and more accessible outside of the churches....

but if you needed help (apart from NGI of course hehehe!) where would you go and why?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:38 am 
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I think that most people would probably turn to their church first. While I don't think this is most useful form of action, I do think that if someone is having serious paranormal trouble in their home then it is still in most peoples mind to send for a vicar (or the equivalent in other religions).

Getting a medium in is probably useful, but you are then leaving yourself wide open to the quality/honesty of the medium. I don't think many people turn to paranormal organisions as a first port of call. This is a shame as they can provide mediums, but also a wider range of people with other skills and views which should hopefully give a balanced opinion on the supposed activity and enable them formulate an effective solution.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:57 pm 
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you need to be hairyfairySPR!

Not as good as EFFI tho hehehehehe!!!

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I must admit that I'm not a big fan of the SPR. Every time I come across them they seem very elitist and do not seem to have as open minds as they probably should. I realise that all SPR members are different (one of my favourite people Maurice Gross was a member) but the majority of vocal SPR members always manage to rub me up the wrong way.

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But Hairyfairy dont Mark!!!!

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Hairyfairy doesn't rub me up the wrong way, I like Hairyfairy :D

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Hiairyfairy rubs you up the right way then? Sponge and Lube then, anyone?? ? :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:51 pm 
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I'll wait for hairyfairy to explain this one hehehehehe!!!

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Hey cut it out, im respectable LOL

Ummmm Im interested as to why you think that about SPR Mark!

To be honest though Ive just started reading a book on parapsycology, its the one which Edinburgh Uni uses for there parapsycology courses.
it mentions a couple of instances where members of the SPR have been involved in recording events at a seance.
To say they didnt conduct the research properly is an understatement!
I was quite shocked to read that they did no investigation into it at all!
Which is what i thought the SPR was all about.

I can understand your fascination and respect for Maurice Gross but do you think when he started out he was searching for his lost daughter????

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:32 am 
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It's just that I never seem to like what I read or hear from SPR members anymore. To be fair I haven't read any major SPR documents for a long time so I shouldn't really slag them off too much. A friend of NGI doing some research into the paranormal went to one of their conferences in London and came away with the same feeling that I have about them.

As for Maurice Gross, I totally agree that losing his daughter Janet was the driving force behind him becoming a paranormal investigator, and I don't think he ever got over the tragedy.
I can understand that proving that there was an afterlife would be very important to him.

Many people have used this motivation as an excuse to discredit his research, and while to some degree I accept that he really wanted to believe in spirit, and this may have coloured his judgement somewhat, there is so much 'evidence' from things such as the Enfield case that to put it all down to the ramblings of a grieving father is absurd in my opinion.

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Umm interesting!

Ive been invited to the annual general meeting of SPR since im now a member but its on sunday and in london, so im not going!
But id like to go really because id like to see just what kind of people are involved with SPR.
The main reason I joined was because its says in the blurb that if a report of a haunting is in "your" area you may be called on to investigate it under the banner of SPR, which i thought would be quite good!

From the stuff ive heard and seen so far i dont think im overly impressed!
But it does mean being a member you get to access previous reports of all sorts of research theyve done!

It seems theyve got a very big name purely by association to Maurice Gross and Enfield!

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I didn't realise you were a member Fairy. I had better watch my mouth before I go slagging them too much then. :D

I would be interested to know more of your SPR experiences if you ever get along to one of their do's.

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the clues were all there in the posts above 4 u Mark hehehehehehe!!

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doktor_phibes wrote:
I didn't realise you were a member Fairy. I had better watch my mouth before I go slagging them too much then. :D

I would be interested to know more of your SPR experiences if you ever get along to one of their do's.



Yeah I joined abit ago now, just so i could get access to some more Enfield stuff. They apparantly hold all the original documents! I thought it might be interesting to see how much more evidence was there if any!

I havent been on the site to look so far though cos ive not really had that much time.
Plus id be interested to see what other things theyve done. Im abit sceptical about them to be honest though. Im not sure after reading one particular article how deeply they research the paranormal!

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I'd be very interested in anything you find out about Enfield.

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Dont worry, this will be the first place i post anything i find out!!

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Have you found anything else out yet Hairy?

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